Before
                          THE TOBYHANNA TOWNSHIP BOARD OF SUPERVISORS
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                In Re:  Public hearing for the purpose of receiving public
                        comment for a proposed ordinance amending their zoning
                        ordinance and establishing a flea market use that is
                        permitted by special exception within the commercial
                        district.
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                         Tobyhanna Township Government Center Building
                                          State Avenue
                                Pocono Pines, Pennsylvania 18350
                         Monday, March 10, 2008, beginning at 6:45 p.m.
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                PRESENT:         JOHN E. KERRICK, Chairperson
                                 HEIDI A. PICKARD, Vice-Chairperson
                                 HUGH LAMBERTON, Board Member
                                 JAMIE B. KEENER, Board Member
                                 DONALD J. MOYER, Board Member
                                 PATRICK M. ARMSTRONG, ESQUIRE, Solicitor
                ALSO PRESENT:    PHYLLIS HAASE, Zoning Officer
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                                        PANKO REPORTING
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        1                    MR. KERRICK:  At this time I'd like
        2    to open our second hearing for Ordinance 462, flea
        3    markets, and turn it over to our solicitor, Pat
        4    Armstrong.
        5                    MR. ARMSTRONG:  This is an ordinance
        6    for the regulation of flea markets and amendment to
        7    your zoning ordinance.  It's placing flea market
        8    uses permitted within the commercial district by
        9    special exception, and it sets forth certain
       10    requirements for flea markets including parking,
       11    advertising signs, structures that shall be
       12    arranged and constructed in accordance with the
       13    overall plan, certain lot area provided for with
       14    the occupied buildings, booth, tables or tents; and
       15    it also sets forth minimum lot areas and widths and
       16    depths for the Attachment 1 to Chapter 155 of the
       17    township code of ordinances which is in the zoning
       18    ordinance chapter.
       19                    The ordinance has been advertised
       20    for adoption at your public meeting this evening;
       21    this is the public hearing for it.  It's been
       22    advertised for a public hearing.  It was advertised
       23    in the Pocono Record on February 25th and March 3rd
       24    of 2008.  It's also been reviewed -- forwarded and
       25    reviewed to the Monroe County Planning Commission,

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        1    as well as the township planning commission.
        2                    The Monroe County Planning
        3    Commission, after reviewing it, made some comments
        4    and suggestions with respect to the definition of
        5    flea markets and in the parking requirements for
        6    flea markets; and both of those suggestions have
        7    been incorporated into this proposed ordinance.
        8    Full copies of the ordinance have been provided to
        9    the Pocono Record.  They've been available at the
       10    township buildings, as well as the Monroe County
       11    Law Library.
       12                    Any comments from the supervisors on
       13    this particular ordinance?
       14                    MR. KEENER:  One comment.  Does this
       15    apply to all existing flea markets and future flea
       16    markets?
       17                    MR. ARMSTRONG:  Well, existing flea
       18    markets --
       19                    MR. KEENER:  Grandfathered?
       20                    MR. ARMSTRONG:  Preexisting
       21    nonconforming uses.  Now, for certain flea markets
       22    that may abandon their flea markets and then
       23    attempt to, you know, reestablish one at a later
       24    date, depending on the time period between them, we
       25    may have an argument as to enforceability of this

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        1    to that particular situation; but, yeah, the ones
        2    that are preexisting are preexisting nonconforming,
        3    would be.  This would be going forward.
        4                    And like I said, it limits it to the
        5    commercial district and it permits them by a
        6    conditional use -- or I'm sorry, special exception.
        7    So there would be a special exception application
        8    and hearing for each flea market proposed or
        9    applied for within the C District.
       10                    So this is a public hearing, if
       11    there's any public comments on this proposed flea
       12    market ordinance?
       13                    Having no public comment on it at
       14    this time, any further comments from the board?
       15                    MR. KEENER:  Do we have a period of
       16    time?
       17                    MR. ARMSTRONG:  Period of time is
       18    not -- you mean hours of operation?
       19                    MR. KEENER:  Hours, but also whether
       20    if it's -- you know, can be in for three months or
       21    six months or is it year-round?
       22                    MR. ARMSTRONG:  Currently there are
       23    no such provisions within the ordinance.  It is by
       24    special exception.  So if the zoning hearing board
       25    at the time of the hearing would prefer to add that

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        1    as a condition, that's something that would be
        2    discussed at the special exception level, if
        3    circumstances for a particular flea market use in a
        4    certain area would, you know, warrant such
        5    condition.
        6                    Like I said, this is a public
        7    hearing; there has been no public comment.  You
        8    will be considering it at your public meeting
        9    tonight for adoption which starts at seven o'clock.
       10                    MR. KERRICK:  Motion to close?
       11                    MR. KEENER:  So moved.
       12                    MR. KERRICK:  Motion to close.
       13                    Do we have a second?
       14                    MR. LAMBERTON:  Second.
       15                    MR. KERRICK:  Motion and second.
       16                    Questions or comments?
       17                    Questions or comments from the
       18    public?
       19                    Call the vote.
       20                    Jamie?
       21                    MR. KEENER:  I vote in favor.
       22                    MR. KERRICK:  Donny?
       23                    MR. MOYER:  I vote in favor.
       24                    MR. KERRICK:  Hugh?
       25                    MR. LAMBERTON:  I vote in favor.

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        1                    MR. KERRICK:  Heidi?
        2                    MS. PICKARD:  I vote in favor.
        3                    MR. KERRICK:  I'll vote in favor.
        4    Motion carried.
        5                    Hearing closed.  We'll take a short
        6    break until 7 p.m. and then we'll have our regular
        7    business meeting.
        8                    (Hearing concluded at 6:53 p.m.)
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        7                    I hereby certify that the
        8    proceedings and evidence are contained fully and
        9    accurately, in the notes taken by me at the hearing
       10    in the above matter; and that the foregoing is a
       11    true and correct transcript of the same.
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